Posts by joey jojo

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Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

by Sea Breeze in

there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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joey jojo

In the 80's in Australia, we had Vincent Toole as C.O. As a kid, I thought he was ok - but then again- kids are idiots.

During the ARC he came across as a bit vain and out of touch.

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First video from the convention is all about FEAR

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/cdzydtuoblw?si=tyr8hgdgaiyn7c4h.

this was leaked only few days ago and it's a small segment of the video from the 2024 convention that has already started.

the video shows a jw logo down while worried jws are watching it as a news item on their tv screens, others are seen hiding from the police, others driving is the countryside to escape the authorities.

joey jojo

So? Where are they all going? They are ready, go bags packed, bikes, but where are they going? No more halls- sold off! Can't get to NY to new HQ's, so where?

Yes , and Im sure the multiple telephone calls they are using to co-ordinate their getaway cant be tracked.

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The snake of Genesis 3:1

by Halcon in

we've got some really knowledgeable members on here so i have a question for them and everybody.

what was the earliest adjective used to describe the snake of genesis 3:1?

currently one can read words in english translations like 'cunning' and 'crafty'....but in other languages you see words like 'wise' and astute...which convey a completely different idea.. i'm wondering what may have been the earliest and most accurate adjective known or used.

joey jojo

Diogenesist
Because - well - the snake was right. "In that day" they absolutely did not die, they died much, much later. And they did afterward know right from wrong, or good from bad.🤷🏼‍♀️

Also, God placed an angel to the east of the garden so they couldn't get to the tree of life and therefore keep living. If a second tree existed, and it granted immortality, how was the serpent to know God would prevent Adam and Eve from accessing it?

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

joey jojo

jehovaxx
There is possibly some truth to most religious beliefs including JWs. I also feel many benefits to being part of a community even if you don’t necessarily believe it there are still benefits

Belonging to a group is why people join churches, gyms, clubs etc. Its a very human thing to want support and hang out with like-minded people. And there wouldnt be anything wrong with it except that groups like JW's are toxic and have become more cult-like especially in the last 20 years.

After the generation doctrine failed, they had a chance to back off, swallow some humble pie and re-assess, but they did the opposite, going so far as to invent new words to describe what a generation is.

A lot of humans just want to believe in something - anything - that gives them some comfort and peace regarding death. That is normal and most people are happy to let others believe what they want. Then you have JW's that cant leave people alone and expect everyone else to question everything they have ever been taught, cut ties with family and friends and stop all the activities they have enjoyed as family traditions for generations. If a person fails to accomplish that incredibly difficult, life-changing process of changing belief systems and shunning their family, then they are not worthy of life.

Just dont expect JW's to apply the same critical thinking to their own beliefs.

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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?

by Sea Breeze in

of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.

joey jojo

I've been following this discussion and I'm still trying to figure out exactly why Seabreeze, you chose this particular curiosity of the solar system as significant from others?

As others here have pointed out, the solar system is full of quirks and notable unique differences. The moon just happens to be the right size and distance so that when viewed from the earth, the moon and the sun appear to be about the same size. That's it.

The moon is only the fifth largest moon in the solar system. Something like three of Jupiter's moons are bigger than the planet Mercury and would be considered planets in their own right if they weren't moons. The four big moons of Jupiter are all unique and interesting.

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So Let's Say Bigger Change Happens

by peacefulpete in

if a change in the blood policy happens, who will be more upset, jws or former jws?

i suspect the latter.

when the beard thing went down, jw's seem to immediately embrace it, whereas many former jw's have been brooding about it.. did it take away a pet gripe we had?.

joey jojo

I don't envy their present confusion, nor losing their sense of being "special" amongst other religions.

JW's have always relished the belief that they alone possess secret knowledge that can save humanity. In the internet age, it has become apparent that the biggest secret they possess is how many CSA offenders they are hiding.

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JW's in the Hot Seat in Czech Republic

by Sea Breeze in

looks like things are heating up in the czech republic over the horrifying practice of shunning children that ask the "wrong" questions.

kids now days have access to all of the watchtower's lies, manipulations, unnecessary deaths, flip flops, rejection of jesus as mediator etc, etc.

i predict this issue of shunning children will continue to threaten free government money that the wt receives.

joey jojo

This is why I wonder if the GB will continue to introduce sweeping changes to the org.

Were the recent changes simply a smokescreen to JW's in order to slide in the change to practises surrounding disfellowshipping and butter up Norway and by extension the EU?

Its going to be interesting to see what happens next.

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Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?

by Balaamsass2 in

1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.

confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.

"" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.

joey jojo

TonusOH
We might be reading too much into this. The guy sounds like a certifiable maniac. It's tragic that this wasn't discovered until he murdered someone. I wonder how those JWs feel that were at the meeting he led, knowing that they were in the presence of a deranged psycopath.

I watched a zoom meeting last night for 15 mins. A sister commented that 'with all the problems going on , its no wonder that there is so much mental illness outside of gods organisation'.

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'Socky' - April 2024 broadcast

by joey jojo in

watched a revision of this broadcast on youtube.

im not sure ive ever seen a more cringe-worthy exchange than between david splane and his good buddy 'socky'.. socky told us the story that he read the book 'what has religion done for mankind?

' (1951) when he was 10 and he 'knew' it was the truth.

joey jojo

Watched a revision of this broadcast on youtube. Im not sure Ive ever seen a more cringe-worthy exchange than between David Splane and his good buddy 'Socky'.

Socky told us the story that he read the book 'What has religion done for mankind?' (1951) when he was 10 and he 'knew' it was the truth. I very briefly skimmed through the book and seems to be the usual jw stuff - it has a 'mankinds search for god' vibe with lots of green and purple illustrations common around that time in jw books.

It briefly explains the major religions - and communism, because it was the 50's I guess, and then tells the reader why each and every one of them has done nothing for mankind. It mentioned that in the 19th century, America was a safe haven for religion and gave rise to many cults - without including themselves in the list, of course. The other stuff is predictable - U.N is bad, false religion is a big, dirty harlot, a bit about 607/ 1914 etc.

My takeaway was that the 10 year old Socky, after reading how religion has enslaved humans forever, decided the best thing he could do with his life was to become a slave to a fundamental religion for the next 70 plus years.

Good job Socky!

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Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

by Halcon in

regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

joey jojo

As a baptised teenager I had an intimate encounter with my then jw girlfriend.😎

My parents found out and made me tell the elders. I'll never forget at the judicial committee one of the elders gleefully saying, "if you were living in ancient Israel, you'd be dead right now."